tim: Tim with short hair, smiling, wearing a black jacket over a white T-shirt (Default)
[personal profile] tim
I am *so* *fucking* *tired* of what passes for health care debate that assumes the problem is any or all of:
1. rich people (i.e. people like you, the person reading this, and me, the person posting this on a taxpayer-sponsored computer) have to pay too much for health care
2. rich people spend too much on health care
3. other organizations spend too much on health care on behalf of rich people
4. rich people sometimes spend 3 months not having health care when they change jobs

The problem actually is:
5. poor people die of asthma attacks because they can't afford preventive care,

you idiots.

And no, (5) is not a direct consequence of (1) through (4), because the problem isn't that the pie isn't big enough for everybody, or that some people are bigger eaters than others; the problem is that most people find it convenient to throw extra pie in the trash rather than giving it to people who don't have any.

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Date: 2009-08-18 08:12 pm (UTC)
adularia: Photo of me, in black and white, with my glasses tilted. (Default)
From: [personal profile] adularia
I for one would be delighted to share my pie with those who don't have any (shut up, Beavis) but that is because I am what the industry refers to as a "consumer", or perhaps a "commie pinko socialist."

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Date: 2009-08-18 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rjmccall.livejournal.com
To probe your painfully distended analogy, I'd like to point out that you can, in fact, pay other people's health care bills. The proper analogy here (and I believe I've stated this in unloaded terms) would be cafeteria monitors trying to ensure that everyone gets a slice of pie if they want it.

Also, I know you like hyperbole, but even people who are primarily focused on poverty issues should care about #4. Being unable to switch jobs out of fear of a coverage lapse is a major problem for a lot of people under or near the poverty line.

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Date: 2009-08-19 03:45 am (UTC)
luinied: Anthy is great at tea and subtext and also sick of gender. I'm glad she eventually gets to see more of the upsides of being stuck on Earth. (focused)
From: [personal profile] luinied
There are still some poor people out there who've managed to hold on to a job with health insurance. And, from what I've seen, this does make switching jobs a pretty scary prospect, not just because of coverage lapses but because they know that they're lucky and that they probably won't be able to get any coverage at all if they leave their current job. (Of course, if it's a time like now, plenty of them end up losing those jobs and having to adapt to life without insurance anyway.)

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