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  <title>Tim's journal</title>
  <subtitle>Taking metaphors too far since 1995</subtitle>
  <author>
    <name>Tim Chevalier</name>
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  <updated>2015-01-01T15:05:10Z</updated>
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    <title>"The non-fungibility of romance"</title>
    <published>2015-01-01T15:05:10Z</published>
    <updated>2015-01-01T15:05:10Z</updated>
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    <content type="html">What &lt;span style='white-space: nowrap;'&gt;&lt;a href='https://graydon2.dreamwidth.org/profile'&gt;&lt;img src='https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png' alt='[personal profile] ' width='17' height='17' style='vertical-align: text-bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;' /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href='https://graydon2.dreamwidth.org/'&gt;&lt;b&gt;graydon2&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote about &lt;a href="http://graydon2.dreamwidth.org/195155.html"&gt;the non-fungibility of romance&lt;/a&gt; is really, really good. As usual, I really like the way he thinks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Excerpt:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It would be like demanding someone sing a song with you. It would be like demanding someone laugh at your joke. It would be like demanding someone wants to bake cookies with you. These are all excellent things to enjoy mutually with someone else, that lots of people like to do, but that require mutual interest. They are all adjacent to much-more-readily available commodity experiences -- you can sing along to a recording, you can watch a funny film and laugh, you can buy and eat a bag of cookies -- but the mutual version, if you want it, is different. Noticeably different, and completely non-commodity. Every sing-along is its own thing. Sometimes all we can get is the commodity thing. Sometimes it's all we can handle, or all we want. Complaints about "nice guy" behaviour are not complaints about men wanting sex. They're about context.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, a lot of guys &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; literally demand that people laugh at their jokes. "It was just a joke. Don't be so thin-skinned. Get a sense of humor."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, I wonder how much consumer capitalism has to do with the idea that if you can pay someone to have sex with you, then you should also be able to pay somebody to have genuine mutual intimacy with you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=tim&amp;ditemid=1868529" width="30" height="12" alt="comment count unavailable" style="vertical-align: middle;"/&gt; comments</content>
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