ext_7286 ([identity profile] catamorphism.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] tim 2008-09-12 04:13 am (UTC)

...well, that's the point where I have to conclude that we must just come from completely different universes so far as information-gathering goes. I kind of thought it was a given that most elections since 1980 or perhaps before have been determined more by lobbyists than by the will of the people, and trying to come up for a source for that right now would be like trying to come up for a source for my belief that water is wet.

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